From: "Mary Jocius" Subject: "Women of the Century" Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 00:59:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D6_01BFC776.D2C72C80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Unsent: 1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D6_01BFC776.D2C72C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting viewpoint on "Women of the Century" =20 Many of us over 50 remember that during the Vietnam War Jane=20 Fonda opposed the war as many others, but she went to Vietnam and embarrassed the U.S. Government and the prisoners of war by her actions. Many of these actions are spelled out below. It is appalling = that her actions have been forgotten and that she may be honored as one of the = "100 Women of the Century." Looks like Hanoi Jane may be honored as one of the "100 Women=20 of the Century". JANE FONDA remembered? Unfortunately many have=20 forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms.Fonda = betrayed=20 not only the idea of our "country" but the men who served and sacrificed = during Vietnam. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Jane Fonda's participation in what I believe to be blatant treason, is one of them. Part of my conviction comes from exposure to those who suffered her attentions. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is = Jerry Driscoll,=20 a River Rat. In 1978, the Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a = former=20 POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton". Dragged from a stinking = cesspool of a=20 cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe = for a=20 visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" = he'd received.=20 He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the = subsequent=20 beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, accidentally = pulling the man's shoe off which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. = still suffered from=20 double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the = Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 = years in the "Hilton"-the first three of which he was "missing in action". = His wife lived on=20 faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the = cleaned/fed/clothed routine in=20 preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and = devised a=20 plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man = secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When = paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you = sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed = her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and = once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge... and handed him the little pile. Three men = died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four. To whom it may concern: I was a civilian economic development = advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a = "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me = Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one = time, I was weighing approximately 90 lb. (My normal weight is 170 lb.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, the camp communist political officer asked me if I would be willing to meet with = Jane Fonda.=20 I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we = POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by = the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient."=20 Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with = outstretched arms with a piece of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane = Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me, her former = husband, Tom Hayden, answered for her. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as "100 Years of = Great Women." Please take the time to read and forward to as many people as = you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to = know that "we will never forget". Lest we forget..."100 years of great = women." "It is a very great poverty to decide that a child must die that you might live as you = wish" - Mother Teresa of Calcutta =20 Mary Jocius jocius@neopolis.net www.MaryJocius.com ------=_NextPart_000_00D6_01BFC776.D2C72C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Interesting viewpoint on "Women of the=20 Century"
 
Many of us over 50 remember that during the = Vietnam War=20 Jane
Fonda opposed the war as many others, but she went to = Vietnam
and embarrassed the U.S. Government and the = prisoners of=20 war by her
actions.  Many of these actions are spelled out = below.=20 It is appalling that her
actions have been forgotten and = that she=20 may be honored as one of the "100
Women of=20 the Century."

    Looks like Hanoi Jane may = be=20 honored as one of the "100 Women
of the Century".  = JANE FONDA=20 remembered?  Unfortunately many have =
forgotten and still=20 countless others have never known how Ms.Fonda betrayed=20
not only the idea of our "country" but the men who = served and=20 sacrificed
during Vietnam.

    There are = few=20 things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Jane
Fonda's=20 participation in what I believe to be blatant treason, is one=20 of
them.   Part of my conviction comes from exposure to = those=20 who suffered
her attentions.

    The = first=20 part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's=20 name is Jerry Driscoll,
a River Rat. In 1978, the Commandant of = the USAF=20 Survival School was a former
POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi = Hilton". =20 Dragged from a stinking cesspool of a
cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in = clean PJs, he=20 was ordered to describe for a
visiting American "Peace Activist" = the =20 "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received.
He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed,=20 and dragged away.  During the subsequent
beating, he fell forward upon the=20 camp Commandant's feet, accidentally pulling the
man's shoe off=20 which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. = still=20 suffered from
double vision (which permanently=20 ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese = Col.'s
frenzied application=20 of a wooden baton.

  From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was = the=20 47FW/DO (F-4Es).  He spent 6 years
in the "Hilton"-the = first=20 three of which he was "missing in action".  His wife lived on=20
faith that he was still alive. His = group, too, got=20 the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in
preparation for a "peace delegation" = visit. =20 They, however, had time and devised a
plan to get word to the = world that they=20 still survived.  Each man secreted a tiny
piece of paper, =20 with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand.  When=20 paraded
before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, = shaking=20 each
man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets = like:=20 "Aren't you sorry you
bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful = for the=20 humane treatment from your
benevolent captors?"  = Believing this HAD=20 to be an act, they each palmed her
their sliver of =20 paper.

She took them all without missing a beat. At the end = of the=20 line and once the
camera stopped rolling, to the shocked = disbelief=20 of the POWs, she turned
to the officer in charge... and = handed him=20 the little pile. Three men died from
the subsequent = beatings. Col.=20 Carrigan was almost number four.

    To whom it = may=20 concern:  I was a civilian economic development=20 advisor in
Vietnam, and was captured by the = North=20 Vietnamese communists in
South Vietnam = in 1968, and held for=20 over 5 years. I spent 27 months in
solitary=20 confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one = year in=20 a "black
box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately = poisoned=20 and
murdered a female missionary,  a nurse in a  = leprosarium in Ban=20 me Thuot, South
Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near = the=20 Cambodian border. At one time, I
was weighing approximately 90 = lb.  (My=20 normal weight is 170 lb.) We were
Jane Fonda's "war = criminals."  =20 When  Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, the camp
communist political=20 officer asked me if I would be willing to meet with Jane = Fonda.
I=20 said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real = treatment we=20 POWs
were receiving,  which was far different from the = treatment=20 purported by the
North Vietnamese, and parroted by  Jane = Fonda, as=20 "humane and lenient."
Because of this, I = spent three days on=20 a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched
arms with a piece = of steel=20 placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo
cane every time my=20 arms dipped.  I had the opportunity to meet with Jane = Fonda
for a=20 couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would=20 be
willing to debate me on TV.   She did  not = answer me,=20 her former husband, Tom
Hayden, answered for her.

This = does not=20 exemplify someone who should be honored as "100=20 Years of Great
Women." Please take the time to read and = forward to=20 as many people as you
possibly can. It will eventually end = up on=20 her computer and she needs to know
that "we will never=20 forget".    Lest we forget..."100 years of great=20 women."

         &nbs= p;            = ;         =20 "It is a very great poverty to=20 decide
          &nb= sp;        =20 that a child must die that you might live as you=20 wish"
          &nbs= p;            = ;            = =20 - Mother Teresa of=20 Calcutta
 
        &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;            =    =20 Mary=20 Jocius
          &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;      =20 jocius@neopolis.net
 &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp; =20 www.MaryJocius.com
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